Comment On Sensitive Computers

"I took this picture at the local post office," George writes, "I guess they must have installed the same computers they use in airplanes and hospitals." [expand full text]
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Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 08:04 • by ADB (unregistered)
I wonder if its a PO that also *sells* mobile phones, most of the UK ones do.

It really irk's me that companies and such use the excuse that "mobile phones damage our equipment", etc. Even though countless studies show that there is no interference of any kind.

Of course, with airplanes, most people would rather not take the risk!

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 08:05 • by haero (unregistered)
So if I go to that post office, ask for 100 sheets of stamps, and turn on my cell phone just as they are ringing up the total, do you think I could get them for free?

It always works at my Dr's office.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 08:07 • by aptent (unregistered)
222004 in reply to 222002
ADB:
I wonder if it's a PO that also *sell's* mobile phone's, most of the UK one's do.

It really irk's me that companie's and such use the excuse that "mobile phone's damage our equipment", etc. Even though countles's studie's show that there is no interference of any kind.

Of cour'se, with airplane's, most people would rather not take the risk!

Fixed that for you.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 08:14 • by 50% Opacity (unregistered)
[T][h][i][r][d][!]

Dammit, those letter drop down boxes take too long.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 08:17 • by validus (unregistered)
not first, mobile phone froze my pc\newlinethen it got mad at me\newlineand i repeated it\newline\newline[\][n][e][w][l][i][n][e]

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 08:23 • by Anon (unregistered)
The Nautilus one isn't a WTF. It's just sad. Nerds trying to be funny and stuff.
But I do like the \newline. Looks like LaTeX.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 08:23 • by bob (unregistered)
\newline is a LaTeX markup code!

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 08:29 • by ContraCorners
222011 in reply to 222004
aptent:
ADB:
I wonder if it's a PO that also *sell's* mobile phone's, most of the UK one's do.

It really irk's me that companie's and such use the excuse that "mobile phone's damage our equipment", etc. Even though countles's studie's show that there is no interference of any kind.

Of cour'se, with airplane's, most people would rather not take the risk!

Fixed that for you.


No you didn't. "Sells" is correct here, there's no apostrophe.

Check the example in definition #2.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sell

Also the plural of phone is "phones" not "phone's."

-CC

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 08:33 • by mitschke (unregistered)
222012 in reply to 222011
aptent's excessive use of the "Deppenapostroph" (idiot's apostrophe) is The real WTF here ;) or just very sad?

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 08:36 • by Superdude (unregistered)
222013 in reply to 222011
ContraCorners:
aptent:
ADB:
I wonder if it's a PO that also *sell's* mobile phone's, most of the UK one's do.

It really irk's me that companie's and such use the excuse that "mobile phone's damage our equipment", etc. Even though countles's studie's show that there is no interference of any kind.

Of cour'se, with airplane's, most people would rather not take the risk!

Fixed that for you.


No you didn't. "Sells" is correct here, there's no apostrophe.

Check the example in definition #2.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sell

Also the plural of phone is "phones" not "phone's."

-CC


I was going to reply with something amusing, but my brain's irony detector has blown.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 08:36 • by mazzanet (unregistered)
Even more amusingly, many/most/all Australia Post outlets have that sign...

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 08:39 • by Hobson
222015 in reply to 222011
I feel very sad for all the peple with their sarcasm-o-meter and/or irony detector broken.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 08:39 • by KNY
I'm curious was to what the submitter of the last one was doing on CrimCheckInc.com.

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22(Your+Credit+Card+number+will+be+scrambled+before+transmitting)%22

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 08:41 • by Gorfblot (unregistered)
222017 in reply to 222011
ContraCorners:
aptent:
ADB:
I wonder if it's a PO that also *sell's* mobile phone's, most of the UK one's do.

It really irk's me that companie's and such use the excuse that "mobile phone's damage our equipment", etc. Even though countles's studie's show that there is no interference of any kind.

Of cour'se, with airplane's, most people would rather not take the risk!

Fixed that for you.


No you didn't. "Sells" is correct here, there's no apostrophe.

Check the example in definition #2.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sell

Also the plural of phone is "phones" not "phone's."

-CC


I think he wa's objecting to your u'se of "irk's". He did thi's by adding apo'strophe's to other word's u'sing the 'same rule's that, apparentl'y, you u'sed for "irk's".

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 08:43 • by aptent (unregistered)
222019 in reply to 222013
Superdude:
I was going to reply with something amusing, but my brain's irony detector has blown.


I think (it is difficult to be sure) the rule is:

Randomly insert an apostrophe before any "s" near the end of a word.

To distinguish possessives from plurals, put two apostrophes in a possessive.

So that should be:

I wa's going to reply with something amusing, but my brain''s irony detector ha's blown.

Rules subject to change tomorrow, of course.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 08:45 • by RiF (unregistered)
222020 in reply to 222011
ContraCorners:
aptent:
ADB:
I wonder if it's a PO that also *sell's* mobile phone's, most of the UK one's do.

It really irk's me that companie's and such use the excuse that "mobile phone's damage our equipment", etc. Even though countles's studie's show that there is no interference of any kind.

Of cour'se, with airplane's, most people would rather not take the risk!

Fixed that for you.


No you didn't. "Sells" is correct here, there's no apostrophe.

Check the example in definition #2.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sell

Also the plural of phone is "phones" not "phone's."

-CC

Whooooosh....thunk!

(the sound of aptent's point going totally over your head...adding to the pile, I suspect)

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 08:46 • by amischiefr
222021 in reply to 222020
I like the "You will be doomed to repeat it" one. That is actually a pretty clever/cute message.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 08:47 • by ais523 (unregistered)
222022 in reply to 222009
The Nautilus one looks to me like someone messed with the localisation files. I tried the same thing in Nautilus, and got this rather saner message as the subtitle:

"If you clear the list of locations, they will be permanently deleted."

However, it's entirely possible that it's me rather than the OP who has the non-standard message...

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 08:50 • by ContraCorners
222024 in reply to 222017
Gorfblot:
ContraCorners:
aptent:
ADB:
I wonder if it's a PO that also *sell's* mobile phone's, most of the UK one's do.

It really irk's me that companie's and such use the excuse that "mobile phone's damage our equipment", etc. Even though countles's studie's show that there is no interference of any kind.

Of cour'se, with airplane's, most people would rather not take the risk!

Fixed that for you.


No you didn't. "Sells" is correct here, there's no apostrophe.

Check the example in definition #2.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sell

Also the plural of phone is "phones" not "phone's."

-CC


I think he wa's objecting to your u'se of "irk's". He did thi's by adding apo'strophe's to other word's u'sing the 'same rule's that, apparentl'y, you u'sed for "irk's".


Whoops. Missed that one. Sorry. (What can I say? I haven't had any coffee yet today.)

I stand corrected.

- CC

PS FWIW, and it doesn't change your point at all, it wasn't "my" use of irk's, it was ADB's.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 08:57 • by RiF (unregistered)
222026 in reply to 222024
ContraCorners:
PS FWIW, and it doesn't change your point at all, it wasn't "my" use of irk's, it was ADB's.


That^ plus the "its":

ADB:
I wonder if its a PO that also *sells* mobile phones, most of the UK ones do.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 08:57 • by The-Kenny (unregistered)
Oh my god! It's a bug in the LaTex-Kernel!

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 08:58 • by GrahamS (unregistered)
Using combo boxes for a credit card number is actually a pretty good way to avoid key loggers.

My bank used to do something similar on their login page - but they eventually went back to a normal text box because the combos were just too irritating for most users.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 09:03 • by VeryProfessional (unregistered)
222029 in reply to 222002
Seems to me that this is a clever piece of social engineering. They clearly don't want to hear people's annoying ringtones in their post office (who can blame them?) and appealing to courtesy rarely works.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 09:04 • by Kuli (unregistered)
I wanted to write a comment, but my mobile phone froze my brain.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 09:05 • by Raf (unregistered)
222031 in reply to 222022
Actually, both are possible within the same locale. From the source:


if ((rand() % 10) == 0) {
/* This is a little joke, shows up occasionally. I only
* implemented this feature so I could use this joke.
*/
prompt = _("Are you sure you want to forget history?");
detail = _("If you do, you will be doomed to repeat it.");
} else {
prompt = _("Are you sure you want to clear the list "
"of locations you have visited?");
detail = _("If you clear the list of locations,"
" they will be permanently deleted.");
}

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 09:06 • by RiF (unregistered)
222032 in reply to 222029
VeryProfessional:
Seems to me that this is a clever piece of social engineering. They clearly don't want to hear people's annoying ringtones in their post office (who can blame them?) and appealing to courtesy rarely works.

Would also help to stop those people that continue to talk on their phones whilst being served, god that annoys me and I'm not even the one serving them!

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 09:12 • by Aaron
The cell phone one just irritates me at a fundamental level. They cause brain tumors, they blow up gas stations, they bring down airplanes, and now they damage computer equipment... ugh. I hope it's true that they just don't want to hear the annoying rings and were tired of appealing to courtesy.

I also like how the credit card one says that the credit card number will be "scrambled". I'm guessing that they use some highly secure encryption like ROT13.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 09:18 • by TopCod3rFan (unregistered)
To paraphrase one of my all time favorite comments, an apostrophe does not mean

"Look out! Here comes an 'S'!"

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 09:20 • by ashen (unregistered)
A magnet in my phones leather case has wiped parking tickets in the past. So the attendant dodders over and jsut lets you through the barrier... for free... So now I just make a note to put phone and ticket in same pocket...

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 09:22 • by Someone You Know
222036 in reply to 222029
VeryProfessional:
Seems to me that this is a clever piece of social engineering. They clearly don't want to hear people's annoying ringtones in their post office (who can blame them?) and appealing to courtesy rarely works.


Exactly. People won't do things like that if you ask them politely, but if you make it look official...

Once, at a party, a friend and I taped a sign with the words "PLACE CELL PHONES HERE" on a counter in the host's house and left our phones on it. Despite there being no logical reason for anyone to put a phone down there, an hour later there were six more phones.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 09:24 • by Phart (unregistered)
222037 in reply to 222016
KNY:
I'm curious was to what the submitter of the last one was doing on CrimCheckInc.com.

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22(Your+Credit+Card+number+will+be+scrambled+before+transmitting)%22


Ok, I got what they call "Scramble".
If you select dropdown list, you will see numbers 1-9 followed by letter O.
Very clever!

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 09:26 • by RiF (unregistered)
222038 in reply to 222035
ashen:
A magnet in my phones

keeeeel hiiiim!!

http://www.apostrophe.fsnet.co.uk/examples.htm

:o)

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 09:28 • by Credit Card Connoisseur (unregistered)
(Your Credit Card number will be scrambled before transmitting.)

Thanks, but I prefer my credit card number over-easy.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 09:30 • by halcyon1234
222040 in reply to 222002
ADB:
It really irk's me that companies and such use the excuse that "mobile phones damage our equipment", etc. Even though countless studies show that there is no interference of any kind.


While I think it's a fine enough safety precaution for airplanes (dare I say it, "Mythbusters" covered this one), the one that ticks me off is the "no cell phones" at gas stations.

It's all based off when, waaaaaaaaaay back when cell phones were brand spanking new and weighed a metric muckton, someone noticed that the batteries used in certain models *might* spark a bit if the connection wasn't right. The fear is so far out of date, it'd be like putting up signs not to park beside someone, because they might bang their elbow on your car when they crank theirs up.

And yet, I still see douchebags walking through a gas station with a lit cigarette.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 09:30 • by Phart (unregistered)
222041 in reply to 222037
Found another brillant dropdown:

How do you wish to pay?
* Credit Card
* Check > FAX to 1-505-336-2383.
* Money Order > Mail it in.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 09:36 • by ashen (unregistered)
222042 in reply to 222038
RiF:
ashen:
A magnet in my phones

keeeeel hiiiim!!

http://www.apostrophe.fsnet.co.uk/examples.htm

:o)


Apologie's'; notes' to 'self to learn how to apo'strocis'e.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 09:36 • by ggeens
222043 in reply to 222009
Anon:
But I do like the \newline. Looks like LaTeX.

It doesn't look like a LaTeX font (or layout).

More likely, it's PostScript.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 09:39 • by tdb
I found the Nautilus one funny. The "I'm mad at you" might also be a creative "No results" message, although not nearly as funny.

The "See PerceptionErrors.txt for details" makes sense, since there may be more errors than is convenient to show in a dialog box. It might be prudent to show the full path though. For extra UI points, make the program ask if the user wants to open the errors file with notepad.

As for the apostrophes: http://www.angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 09:42 • by jpers36
222046 in reply to 222040
halcyon1234:

While I think it's a fine enough safety precaution for airplanes (dare I say it, "Mythbusters" covered this one), the one that ticks me off is the "no cell phones" at gas stations.

It's all based off when, waaaaaaaaaay back when cell phones were brand spanking new and weighed a metric muckton, someone noticed that the batteries used in certain models *might* spark a bit if the connection wasn't right. The fear is so far out of date, it'd be like putting up signs not to park beside someone, because they might bang their elbow on your car when they crank theirs up.

And yet, I still see douchebags walking through a gas station with a lit cigarette.


According to multiple news sources, the problem wasn't traced back to older cell phone batteries, but rather to static electricity collected when entering and exiting the front seat of the car to get a ringing cell phone that was stored in the center console.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 09:45 • by Ie (unregistered)
222048 in reply to 222015
Hobson:
I feel very sad for all the peple with their sarcasm-o-meter and/or irony detector broken.


Oh I'm REALLY sad people's sarcasm-o-meter is broken. No, really, I'm just SO upset by it. Nothing makes me sadder than when some one can't tell people are being sar cas tic.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 09:46 • by captcha: amet (unregistered)
222049 in reply to 222033
Aaron:
The cell phone one just irritates me at a fundamental level. They cause brain tumors, they blow up gas stations, they bring down airplanes, and now they damage computer equipment... ugh. I hope it's true that they just don't want to hear the annoying rings and were tired of appealing to courtesy.


I had a Dell laptop which seemingly randomly rebooted all through my shift (I was working Helpdesk, and we could bring our own computers to goof around on during downtime.) I eventually realized that it only happened when my phone was near my computer and it received a call.

I'm sure I was the odd case, but interference from phones is fairly commonly heard through speakers, too. The store could be concerned, not only about real damage, but about damage to sales if the speakers sound like crap because someone's mobile is nearby.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 09:51 • by doh
222050 in reply to 222044
tdb:
I found the Nautilus one funny. The "I'm mad at you" might also be a creative "No results" message, although not nearly as funny.

The "See PerceptionErrors.txt for details" makes sense, since there may be more errors than is convenient to show in a dialog box. It might be prudent to show the full path though. For extra UI points, make the program ask if the user wants to open the errors file with notepad.

As for the apostrophes: http://www.angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif


Open with notepad? Um, don't you mean open /w your default .txt editor? I hate when programs open something with Window's default program instead of the program I have associated with it. (On Windows, I <3 Notepad++).

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 09:52 • by abbas (unregistered)
222051 in reply to 222040
halcyon1234:
And yet, I still see douchebags walking through a gas station with a lit cigarette.

True story: I was filling my tank and saw a guy sitting by the cashier's door smoking. Not wanting to go up with him in a large ball of flame (didn't care so much if he went alone) I pointed to the No Smoking sign about 3 feet away, complete with international symbols for the fatally illiterate.

"It's OK", he replied, "I know the owner."

Unfortunately at that point my brain experienced a temporary DOS as I tried to parse his logic. I wanted to say something like "and the owner's magic powers, which prevent gasoline from burning, protect not only himself but his friends?" but didn't think of it fast enough.

Note to self: Don't go that gas station anymore; their product doesn't burn.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 09:53 • by TS (unregistered)
because of the "nearest poting box" sign i suspect that it is a broadway post office, isn't it?
It's been a long time since I've been there, but I still remember that there was sign like this there...
Anyway - sometimes a ringing phone near mouse is able to move the cursor on the screen randomly, but it has to be verz near and it works only on some type of mouse(and NO, it is not because of vibrations:)

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 09:58 • by Richard (unregistered)
Of course, instead of scrambling, they could always have just used SSL:

<FORM action="http://fp1.formmail.com/cgi-bin/fm192 " method="POST">


Interestingly, their <select>s are all named either X or Y. I assume that most browsers put duplicate entries in the order they are seen on the page, but I certainly doubt that's a documented part of the spec...

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 10:00 • by cklam
222055 in reply to 222046
jpers36:
halcyon1234:

While I think it's a fine enough safety precaution for airplanes (dare I say it, "Mythbusters" covered this one), the one that ticks me off is the "no cell phones" at gas stations.

It's all based off when, waaaaaaaaaay back when cell phones were brand spanking new and weighed a metric muckton, someone noticed that the batteries used in certain models *might* spark a bit if the connection wasn't right. The fear is so far out of date, it'd be like putting up signs not to park beside someone, because they might bang their elbow on your car when they crank theirs up.

And yet, I still see douchebags walking through a gas station with a lit cigarette.


According to multiple news sources, the problem wasn't traced back to older cell phone batteries, but rather to static electricity collected when entering and exiting the front seat of the car to get a ringing cell phone that was stored in the center console.


I live in the UAE. At the gas stations here, refuelling is by gas stations attendants only. Since it is so hot here here, nobody (and I mean NOBODY as in 0.0000000%) is switching off the engine whilst the car is being refuelled in order to keep the AC running ........ Nothing ever happens. The most deadly roads in the world are here, though.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 10:04 • by TwelveBaud
222056 in reply to 222043
ggeens:
Anon:
But I do like the \newline. Looks like LaTeX.

It doesn't look like a LaTeX font (or layout).

More likely, it's PostScript.
I dunno, looks like RTF to me...

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 10:16 • by Lady Nocturne (unregistered)
222057 in reply to 222004
Ha! Rotsky'd!!

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 10:20 • by codeman38
222059 in reply to 222028
GrahamS:
Using combo boxes for a credit card number is actually a pretty good way to avoid key loggers.

As long as they also disable the keyboard in those fields... Otherwise, you'll have people like me who just tab between the combo boxes and make a selection by pressing the keys to jump to the appropriate option.

Re: Sensitive Computers

2008-10-09 10:20 • by James (unregistered)
222060 in reply to 222054
Richard:
Of course, instead of scrambling, they could always have just used SSL:

<FORM action="http://fp1.formmail.com/cgi-bin/fm192 " method="POST">


Interestingly, their <select>s are all named either X or Y. I assume that most browsers put duplicate entries in the order they are seen on the page, but I certainly doubt that's a documented part of the spec...


That's OK -- if you're dumb enough to use their web site in the first place, you're just about guaranteed to be using IE. (probably IE 5)
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