Comment On Office Supply Amnesty

"It's tough times all around," Matt D. wrote, "and that means we all have to make sacrifices. After receiving this email from management, I'll make sure to do my part and ration my paper clips." [expand full text]
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Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:01 • by James R. Twine (unregistered)
Time to leave...

Counting pencils is a sure sign of impending DOOM!

-=- James.

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:03 • by snoofle
217409 in reply to 217407
James R. Twine:
Time to leave...

Counting pencils is a sure sign of impending DOOM!

-=- James.

When I first started at Bear Stearns (15 years ago), they gave you a paper bag with 50 paper clips, and told you to make it last because the company would not waste money on such things.

They tossed billions, and finally the company itself on foolish mortgages, but the brass made money on that!

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:07 • by acsi (unregistered)
TRWTF:

From: Cole, William

Regards,

Bill

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:08 • by acsi (unregistered)
And 1 second after clicking "submit" I realize that Cole was NOT his first name. Guess who feels stupid now..

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:10 • by snoofle
217412 in reply to 217411
acsi:
And 1 second after clicking "submit" I realize that Cole was NOT his first name. Guess who feels stupid now..
It's Monday - you get a pass; this time ;)

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:11 • by Matt S (unregistered)
First gas, now office supplies. Our economy really IS dwindling, isn't it?

captcha: damnum

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:11 • by spike_tt
William Cole has been touchy about these things ever since he got caught stealing those thimbles.

http://www.hrionline.ac.uk/luceneweb/hri3/display_20050804.jsp?mode=bailey&file=html_units%2F1830s%2Ft18300415-320.html&hil=content:(idiot)

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:12 • by R (unregistered)
Did you work for Lehman Brothers by any chance? If you'd just returned your pencil you bastard....

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:17 • by Milton (unregistered)
217418 in reply to 217407
Did they get a choice on the brand of stapler?

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:21 • by dtech

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:21 • by DoctorFriday
At a previous employer, our supply closet was locked at all times and if you wanted a single pen, you had to request the key and then had to literally, sign-out what you took from the closet.

Sounds like a huge WTF of micro-management until you realize that the local pastime was office supply theft.

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:23 • by declinator (unregistered)
I would suppose that the real issue is not the ton of office supplies hidden in murky corners of the office but the one in decentralized warehousing at the various employees' homes...

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:23 • by Zap Brannigan (unregistered)
217422 in reply to 217418
We went through something similar. Not so much for cost savings. We went through 5S phase. We were all supposed to have the same supplies and arrange them in the same place. One or two clowns actually had tape outlines and labeled everything on their desk. I got dunned for having too many pennies in my drawer.

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:27 • by dysmas
am i the only one thinking that is a huge amount of stationary? i currently have 2 (two) pens and a plain white notepad on my desk .. that is all.

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:30 • by dag (unregistered)
* Pencils (3??)

The double question marks here indicate that there must have been a meeting that went something like this:

Bill: Right, on to pencils, I think we can all agree that one pencil is quite enough for anyone.
(discontented rumblings and coughings from around the table)
Charles: Actually, I have five, and I use them all, two each on my desk, and in my laptop bag, and one spare. You know, you can never find a sharpener when you need one.
("hear, hear", say the mumblers)
Bill: FIVE???!?!?!? No way! I buy your comment about sharpeners, so I'm putting it up to two.
David: Now really, Bill, limiting pencils to two is a recipe for disaster. Personally, I have three, one in use, one spare, and one for emergencies. I really couldn't get by with a mere two pencils.
("hear, hear")
Brian: No, I really must put my foot down, two pencils should be quite enough.
David: Then you offer me no choice but to resign.
Charles: Me, too. Two pencils indeed!
(the amassed throng): Yes! We resign too!
Brian: OK, OK, no one need resign, I'll put down 3, but you'll all have to share dry wipe markers.

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:31 • by Crabs (unregistered)
217425 in reply to 217423
am i the only one thinking that is a huge amount of stationary? i currently have 2 (two) pens and a plain white notepad on my desk .. that is all.

Depends on what you're doing in the office. If your a programmer, this is probably a bit much. If you're doing sales over the phone, this is probably about par.

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:31 • by dag (unregistered)
The other reason for having three pencils might be to do with the "Constipated Mathematician" joke.

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:32 • by umbrage (unregistered)
Oh, just do away with the employer supplied office supplies. Give each person their own personal budget and let them buy what they want. :)

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:32 • by gabba
Dear all,

We spend a lot of money each year on managers - a lot
of this is unnecessary expenditure as they spend their
time micromanaging employees to no measurable savings.

Please check the office for any unused managers and dispose
of them in some appropriate way. This exercise should also
help to tidy up the offices which are starting to look trashy
in some areas.

Hoping I will get you co-operation in this

Regards,

gabba

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:32 • by tsr (unregistered)
217429 in reply to 217423
I freely admit to having 6 postit pads on my desk right now. But every one of them was a freebie from a supplier. Did I waste the Company money? (Oh wait, I work in acedemia, who cares.)

Seriously though, I've been known to accidently take a pen home every so often? I typically bring back a rough equivelant anyway (my forgetfullness goes both ways.)

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:37 • by ping floyd (unregistered)
217430 in reply to 217423
dysmas:
am i the only one thinking that is a huge amount of stationary? i currently have 2 (two) pens and a plain white notepad on my desk .. that is all.


I've got one notepad and one pen. Rarely use them, though, cause I can't even read my own handwriting. :-) I use the computer for everything!

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:38 • by neveralull (unregistered)
I once had a dept. manager who insisted that no one could have their own stapler. To staple papers, you had to take your papers to his secretary and staple them in her office. This took several minutes, easily the cost of a stapler in my time.

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:41 • by A Nonny Mouse
217432 in reply to 217423
dysmas:
am i the only one thinking that is a huge amount of stationary? i currently have 2 (two) pens and a plain white notepad on my desk .. that is all.

my desk tidy currently holds 2 highlighters, 11 pens of various colours, a pair of scissors, salad dressing, 2 types of soy sauce, wasabi powder, a nail file and a straw. i'm too terrified to open my pedestal but i know there's a ruler, a stapler, post-its, some cereal and a can of soup in there somewhere... bring on the apocalypse.

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:47 • by Just Some Guy (unregistered)
I bring my own pens because I hate the cheap generic office version. But beyond that, say I blow through $100 in mis-used office supplies. That's a few hours of my pay. Given that I work on the order of 2,000 hours a year, I'd rate this somewhere between "petty" and "utterly pointless".

To repeat others: if your office is counting pencils, polish your resume. You'll be needing it soon.

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:49 • by aaawww (unregistered)
management always come out with curious ways to enanche roi. note that in roi goes only live expenditure, so they happily waste 1 hr of programmer time at week saving 10$ of supplies. of curse 1hr of my time is worth 30$ (gross), but in balance term I'm a fixed expenditure so won't come in play during cash flow balancing.

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:53 • by shadowman
217436 in reply to 217407
James R. Twine:
Time to leave...

Counting pencils is a sure sign of impending DOOM!

-=- James.


I think you hit the nail right on the head there.

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:55 • by Code Dependent
I have a pencil, a number of pens all of which were gifts from vendors (Graft! Corruption!), a yellow highlighter which may have been used twice, and a fairly new black marker because the previous one finally died (dried, actually) of old age.

Oh, and there's a fancy-schmancy big ol' naugahide-cornered notepad. The little monthly calendars on it run from January 2002 through December 2003. It still has several blank pages left before its usefulness is at an end.

But, hey... the corners are made from real naugas.

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:56 • by Matt (unregistered)
Bit surprised nobody's asked this yet...

I wonder what the exchange rate is. If I give up all my pencils and sharpeners, as well as the paperclips and tipex, can I have an A4 ring binder?

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 11:58 • by darren (unregistered)
You know, the tone of that e-mail is very much that of an Office Supply Commandant.

That said, I do wonder how many of you have ever been high enough up in management to realize what a huge expense basic office supplies (toner, pens, paper, etc.) really are. It is a reasonable thing for management to remind folks of that sometimes, and to encourage people to return unused supplies.

One place I work went about this by having an annual "cleaning day" -- you were allowed to spend the whole day cleaning your work area. Bins were provided for trash and recycling (and secure destruction), and places to return unused office supplies, and a "swap table" for furnishings. If you had anything that was just clutter, you could toss it or put it out to be re-used.

Saved them much more than it cost in the lost day of productivity!

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 12:01 • by Bill Lumbergh (unregistered)
217441 in reply to 217412
Sounds like somebody's got a case of the Mondays!

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 12:02 • by Bill Lumbergh (unregistered)
217442 in reply to 217412
snoofle:
acsi:
And 1 second after clicking "submit" I realize that Cole was NOT his first name. Guess who feels stupid now..
It's Monday - you get a pass; this time ;)


Sounds like somebody's got a case of the Mondays!

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 12:07 • by biziclop (unregistered)
217443 in reply to 217440
darren:
You know, the tone of that e-mail is very much that of an Office Supply Commandant.

That said, I do wonder how many of you have ever been high enough up in management to realize what a huge expense basic office supplies (toner, pens, paper, etc.) really are. It is a reasonable thing for management to remind folks of that sometimes, and to encourage people to return unused supplies.

One place I work went about this by having an annual "cleaning day" -- you were allowed to spend the whole day cleaning your work area. Bins were provided for trash and recycling (and secure destruction), and places to return unused office supplies, and a "swap table" for furnishings. If you had anything that was just clutter, you could toss it or put it out to be re-used.

Saved them much more than it cost in the lost day of productivity!


That's just common sense. Plus it must have been fun, so it's good for morale either.

On the other hand, accusing your employees with stealing stationery is not. Even, and I have to stress this, if some of them do steal stationery and it costs a lot.

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 12:07 • by Steve (unregistered)
Time to (a) dust off the old résumé and (b) find the nearest unemployment office.

Eeek!

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 12:08 • by Me (unregistered)
217445 in reply to 217421
I would suppose that the real issue is not the ton of office supplies hidden in murky corners of the office but the one in decentralized warehousing at the various employees' homes...


It's part of the disaster recovery plan. If the building were to burn down, there would be no need to replace office supplies, as they are located in distributed off-site locations.

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 12:13 • by Mainic Mailman (unregistered)
217446 in reply to 217426
dag:
The other reason for having three pencils might be to do with the "Constipated Mathematician" joke.
I can't believe I had never heard that one before. I was worried my webfilter might prevent me from reading it; good thing it wasn't blocked.

Thanks for the pointer!

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 12:16 • by Bejesus (unregistered)
Dear Bill,

Which costs the company more? Stationary or hundreds of employees reading your globally emailed brain farts?

Kindly go forth and fornicate.

Regards

Me

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 12:22 • by KäseMeister (unregistered)
217449 in reply to 217424
dag:

Bill: Right, on to pencils, I think we can all agree that one pencil is quite enough for anyone.
(discontented rumblings and coughings from around the table)

...
dag:

Brian: OK, OK, no one need resign, I'll put down 3, but you'll all have to share dry wipe markers.

Bill: Er... who the hell is Brian? I'm in charge here. Now get off my folders.

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 12:25 • by Ryan (unregistered)
At one of my previous jobs it took me over a year to finally get my own stapler - despite filling out the appropriate request form every month when they bought office supplies.

I finally got one, after I refused to stable anything - instead doing the whole tear and fold the corners thing. People hate that.


Of course, this is the same employer that required we spend 8 hours sitting at our desk, and counted our lunch time and bathroom breaks. When I was "let go" they told me exactly how many minutes I spent in the bathroom over the course of the year.

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 12:26 • by Lars Vargas
217452 in reply to 217411
acsi:
TRWTF:

From: Cole, William

Regards,

Bill
acsi:
And 1 second after clicking "submit" I realize that Cole was NOT his first name. Guess who feels stupid now..
 * Comments based on misinterpretation but quickly caught (1)
Looks like it's your lucky day. Don't let it happen again. :)

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 12:26 • by Sue D. Nymme (unregistered)
Plastic....wallets?

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 12:34 • by vp (unregistered)
217454 in reply to 217440
I agree that it can save a lot going through and inventory the crap load of office supply from the cube once in a while. At the same time limiting the pens to two is not a good idea in the open door cube environment since there are many times "Accidents" happen when someone will end up taking your pen. Also, the thrill of having more than you can keep promotes more waste.

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 12:38 • by Manos
>>Rubber bands (20)

Imagine if your position in that joke of a company involves receiving parcels.
You will have to destroy the rubber bands that come with the incoming parcels to make sure you don't exceed the limit.

Run forest run

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 12:40 • by hehe (unregistered)
217457 in reply to 217451
Ryan:
At one of my previous jobs it took me over a year to finally get my own stapler - despite filling out the appropriate request form every month when they bought office supplies.
You know you can buy one for under $5 and any local store?

Ryan:
Of course, this is the same employer that required we spend 8 hours sitting at our desk, and counted our lunch time and bathroom breaks. When I was "let go" they told me exactly how many minutes I spent in the bathroom over the course of the year.
Was it more or less then the amount of time you spent reading thedailywtf? Code more, poop less! ;-p

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 12:46 • by Mikoangelo (unregistered)
217459 in reply to 217454
vp:
[T]he thrill of having more than you can keep promotes more waste.


You must be really, really bored at work.

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 12:48 • by Gamma (unregistered)
217461 in reply to 217453
Sue D. Nymme:
Plastic....wallets?



Yeah, what are they, and why don't I have any?

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 12:48 • by snoofle
217462 in reply to 217457
hehe:
Ryan:
At one of my previous jobs it took me over a year to finally get my own stapler - despite filling out the appropriate request form every month when they bought office supplies.
You know you can buy one for under $5 and any local store?

Until the company starts buying stuff for me to use in my personal life at home, I don't see myself buying resources for the company to be used at the office.

hehe:

Ryan:
Of course, this is the same employer that required we spend 8 hours sitting at our desk, and counted our lunch time and bathroom breaks. When I was "let go" they told me exactly how many minutes I spent in the bathroom over the course of the year.
Was it more or less then the amount of time you spent reading thedailywtf? Code more, poop less! ;-p

We are on-call 7x24, so if I spend 8 hours a day reading TDWTF at work, and then work 10 hours through the night, I figure the company comes out ahead, and I won't take any crap about it.

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 12:52 • by Andrew (unregistered)
217463 in reply to 217461
Gamma:
Sue D. Nymme:
Plastic....wallets?



Yeah, what are they, and why don't I have any?


How much was in those 10 plastic wallets per employee? That's where here the money is.

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 12:56 • by LightStyx
217464 in reply to 217410
I wouldn't say this to be TRWTF. Company directory listings commonly have an employees full name and employees often sign off on their messages on what they go by

Bill = William

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 13:03 • by LEGO (unregistered)
217466 in reply to 217411
acsi:
And 1 second after clicking "submit" I realize that Cole was NOT his first name. Guess who feels stupid now..


That is known in the business as one ohnosecond. ;-)

-Lego

Re: Office Supply Amnesty

2008-09-15 13:17 • by G Mo' (unregistered)
217468 in reply to 217432
A Nonny Mouse:
dysmas:
am i the only one thinking that is a huge amount of stationary? i currently have 2 (two) pens and a plain white notepad on my desk .. that is all.

my desk tidy currently holds 2 highlighters, 11 pens of various colours, a pair of scissors, salad dressing, 2 types of soy sauce, wasabi powder, a nail file and a straw. i'm too terrified to open my pedestal but i know there's a ruler, a stapler, post-its, some cereal and a can of soup in there somewhere... bring on the apocalypse.


Dude ... not just food ... but dressings and sauces? You're using your desk to prepare your lunch AND to file your nails?

Gross, dude.
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